Sam's Megadrive Portable
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- sam_thornley
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Hey People, So I've started work on a Megadrive (Genesis) portable about 2 weeks ago.
Proposed Specs:
5" PSone Screen - Anti-glare removed
Sega Genesis 3 PCB
Cart Slot at rear of unit
6x 1.2v 2600mAh NiMh Batteries (7.2v)
Mspaint Mock-up:
I managed to pick up a Genesis 3 off ebay back in march. Had it shipped to me all the way from the US to the UK. Didnt cost that much As you may or may not know the Sega Genesis 3 was never released here in the UK. There are alternatives but they are no good for what i want, like RGB video and a cart slot.
Megadrive 2 and a Genesis 3 size comparison:
The Genesis 3 Board:
As you can see its the one with the heart shaped traces near the RAM chip. This particular board has RGB wired up to the av port like a megadrive 2. I've heard the other genesis 3 revision with 2 memory chips does'nt, but RGB is still easy to do. You can wire up RGB from a genesis to a PSone screen really easily. No video amps are needed, just add 3 75ohm resistors in series on each of the RGB lines. This will give you a crystal clear picture on the PSone screen. It will still work without the resistors but the outputs slightly overdrive the PSone screen. I will do a diagram in mspaint later if anyones interested.
Heres my prototype system from a few months back:
You can see my 75ohm resistors below the screen. Desolderd the ports of the geny board. I've also region modded the board so its runs at 50hz pal. (Info on how to do this here: http://vgmods.webs.com/segagenesismodificaitons.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Scroll down) I'm not using the battery in the picture, its just one i had spare.
So here's how far i've got as of now:
I've started work on my case got the front and back panels cut, drilled, sanded, filed and spray painted. I'm using 6mm thick MDF (as usual!) Dimensions: 165MM X 195MM
Ready to spray paint:
Perf boards for speaker grills:
Painted with 3 coats of mat black:
Installed the buttons, screen cover, PSone screen LCD and power led to the front panel. Then installed the Power jacks, power switches, Batteries, speakers and mounts for the genesis board on to the back panel. Also wired up the batteries.
The front panel, i got the screen cover from a crappy game cube screen:
The PSone LCD is held in with double sided sticky foam around the boarder. Then i added some all purpose glue after. The LCD still comes apart from the metal frame, in case one day i want to do an led mod:
The batteries are all wired up, so is the power switch and DC input jack. The batteries are held in with super glue. You can see where the genesis 3 board is going:
Thats it for now. Expect updates every few days.
Proposed Specs:
5" PSone Screen - Anti-glare removed
Sega Genesis 3 PCB
Cart Slot at rear of unit
6x 1.2v 2600mAh NiMh Batteries (7.2v)
Mspaint Mock-up:
I managed to pick up a Genesis 3 off ebay back in march. Had it shipped to me all the way from the US to the UK. Didnt cost that much As you may or may not know the Sega Genesis 3 was never released here in the UK. There are alternatives but they are no good for what i want, like RGB video and a cart slot.
Megadrive 2 and a Genesis 3 size comparison:
The Genesis 3 Board:
As you can see its the one with the heart shaped traces near the RAM chip. This particular board has RGB wired up to the av port like a megadrive 2. I've heard the other genesis 3 revision with 2 memory chips does'nt, but RGB is still easy to do. You can wire up RGB from a genesis to a PSone screen really easily. No video amps are needed, just add 3 75ohm resistors in series on each of the RGB lines. This will give you a crystal clear picture on the PSone screen. It will still work without the resistors but the outputs slightly overdrive the PSone screen. I will do a diagram in mspaint later if anyones interested.
Heres my prototype system from a few months back:
You can see my 75ohm resistors below the screen. Desolderd the ports of the geny board. I've also region modded the board so its runs at 50hz pal. (Info on how to do this here: http://vgmods.webs.com/segagenesismodificaitons.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Scroll down) I'm not using the battery in the picture, its just one i had spare.
So here's how far i've got as of now:
I've started work on my case got the front and back panels cut, drilled, sanded, filed and spray painted. I'm using 6mm thick MDF (as usual!) Dimensions: 165MM X 195MM
Ready to spray paint:
Perf boards for speaker grills:
Painted with 3 coats of mat black:
Installed the buttons, screen cover, PSone screen LCD and power led to the front panel. Then installed the Power jacks, power switches, Batteries, speakers and mounts for the genesis board on to the back panel. Also wired up the batteries.
The front panel, i got the screen cover from a crappy game cube screen:
The PSone LCD is held in with double sided sticky foam around the boarder. Then i added some all purpose glue after. The LCD still comes apart from the metal frame, in case one day i want to do an led mod:
The batteries are all wired up, so is the power switch and DC input jack. The batteries are held in with super glue. You can see where the genesis 3 board is going:
Thats it for now. Expect updates every few days.
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Re: Sam's Megadrive Portable
Lookin' good! ...I'm totally digging that battery arrangement
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Re: Sam's Megadrive Portable
Yes the Genesis3 is awesome! Only problem is no stereo
What do you plan on using for the sidewalls?
What do you plan on using for the sidewalls?
- sam_thornley
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Re: Sam's Megadrive Portable
Thanks, arranging the batteries took some thinking but i got there in the end.Metallica Man X wrote:Lookin' good! ...I'm totally digging that battery arrangement
No stereo sound doesn't really bother me in portables. At least the geny 3 has better audio than the GN twin or the radica. Sonic's jump can be heardhackmodford wrote:Yes the Genesis3 is awesome! Only problem is no stereo
What do you plan on using for the sidewalls?
Spent a wile flattening down the capacitors on the genesis board. Also removed a load of unnecessary ones. Also removed the 7805, as i'm using a switching regulator to save power. Pictures on this and more updates...soon!
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Oh yeah sidewalls i'm not sure yet. Maybe just some more fiber board. Double post!! oops!
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You can get stereo from the Genny 3. There's a simple guide on Segasonicfan's site. Any progress?
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I know, but its not as easy as just pulling stereo from the sega cpu. Another op-amp has to be made then the signals from the board have to be fed in to both amps. Though i think feeding the signals to the "crystal clear" audio mod circuit would work. I may try all of this some day, but i don't mind about stereo sound on a portable. At least sound on the Gen3 is better than a Model 2.Bino Gas wrote:You can get stereo from the Genny 3. There's a simple guide on Segasonicfan's site. Any progress?
Yes some updates:
Here's how my Geny 3 board looks now:
Pretty flat now! Rather than relocating the old capacitors with wires. I got hold of a load of new ones then replaced and positoned them all nice and flat. The good thing about new capacitors is that they come with nice long legs so they can be postioned in any direction without the need for wires. Also it is a good idea to replace all the electrolytic caps in older 10 years+ consoles, as they loose their value significantly over the years. That could cause stability issues with some consoles. I've left out a few "buffer" caps on the video/audio lines as they are generally not needed. Plus a few near were the 7805 used to be.
Got a loads of work done over the last week on the case ect.
Added the corner supports that hold the front and back together.
Here my swiching regulator that i'm using to power the genesis. Its a PTH08080 set to 5v with a 300ohm resistor. (under the heatshrink tubing) Gives around 5-5.1v
Got my RGB+Sync+Audio wired up to my PSone screen connectors. 75ohm resistors under heatshrink tubing.
5v wired up to were the 7805 was.
Thats it for now. Next i need to get the controls wired up. I'm going to try and trim up a Megadrive controller PCB, and hopefully get it to fit somewere.
Though i could just re-mount the 74HC157 multiplexer IC on to some bread board to act as the controller. Or even hack up a radica megadrive controller. Anyway more updates soon!
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Excellent progress! Seems like most of us should be doing capacitor replacements then.
Great idea. I might try that sometime.sam_thornley wrote:Though i think feeding the signals to the "crystal clear" audio mod circuit would work.
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Yes, very nice! Great job with the heat shrink---looks professional
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BACK!!
Yes I am still working on this project! Its just have not updated this post since july!! Been busy with lots of other stuff lately, some portable related some not. Right here's the August update that i posted over on moddedbybacteria forums but not here:
The portable is 90% complete now. All the electronics are complete and working. A fully playable system. Its just the side panels that need adding on. I surpose one could call this a "working beta portable" or something
What i've done so far
For the controller i ended up hacking up a spare radica 6in1 controller. I came up with a pinout so that it can be used an a real megadrive. Using this page: http://devster.monkeeh.com/sega/radica/#joypad" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Usually these run at 3.3v but they don't seem to care running at 5v. Works perfectly.
I cut down the board so that it would fit in to the system:
All wired up:
I originally hacked up a real megadrive controller, de-soldered all of the components, did a diagram then mounted everything on to some perf board. But i had trouble getting it to fit under the psone screen board. (Where the radica on is now) So i had to leave it out of this project. Will be ideal for future megadrive portable perhaps?. Thats why i went with the radica board in the end. Here's some pictures of it anyway:
Got the Controller wired up the genesis board, and wired up the player 2 port:
Got the volume controls wired up to the psone screen:
Then installed the psone screen board. Also wired up the front power LED:
Then i put the case halfs together adding the four corner screws afterwards. At this stage PSone screens connectors have to be attached, because they are too short to be connected when the case halfs are held apart.
Some "beta stage" pics of the system as it looks now:
Turned out pretty well so far i think The corner supports are abit off in some places but they will be hidden away when i get the side panels added on. It will be still posible to un-screw the back panel if i need to.
I need to get the side panels cut out and painted. Hope fully before christmas. Stay tuned people i will finish this project!
Yes I am still working on this project! Its just have not updated this post since july!! Been busy with lots of other stuff lately, some portable related some not. Right here's the August update that i posted over on moddedbybacteria forums but not here:
The portable is 90% complete now. All the electronics are complete and working. A fully playable system. Its just the side panels that need adding on. I surpose one could call this a "working beta portable" or something
What i've done so far
For the controller i ended up hacking up a spare radica 6in1 controller. I came up with a pinout so that it can be used an a real megadrive. Using this page: http://devster.monkeeh.com/sega/radica/#joypad" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Usually these run at 3.3v but they don't seem to care running at 5v. Works perfectly.
I cut down the board so that it would fit in to the system:
All wired up:
I originally hacked up a real megadrive controller, de-soldered all of the components, did a diagram then mounted everything on to some perf board. But i had trouble getting it to fit under the psone screen board. (Where the radica on is now) So i had to leave it out of this project. Will be ideal for future megadrive portable perhaps?. Thats why i went with the radica board in the end. Here's some pictures of it anyway:
Got the Controller wired up the genesis board, and wired up the player 2 port:
Got the volume controls wired up to the psone screen:
Then installed the psone screen board. Also wired up the front power LED:
Then i put the case halfs together adding the four corner screws afterwards. At this stage PSone screens connectors have to be attached, because they are too short to be connected when the case halfs are held apart.
Some "beta stage" pics of the system as it looks now:
Turned out pretty well so far i think The corner supports are abit off in some places but they will be hidden away when i get the side panels added on. It will be still posible to un-screw the back panel if i need to.
I need to get the side panels cut out and painted. Hope fully before christmas. Stay tuned people i will finish this project!
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Re: Sam's Megadrive Portable
Very clean build!
You have one of those weird Gen3 models with the main chip rotated 45 degrees. I think it looks awesome, but mine is normal.
Didn't know that the radica controller would work fine with a standard Genny. Good to know.
You have one of those weird Gen3 models with the main chip rotated 45 degrees. I think it looks awesome, but mine is normal.
Didn't know that the radica controller would work fine with a standard Genny. Good to know.
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The project is now 100% done!! Yay!! Got the side panels added. Then wraped black tape around the edges rather than painting. Turned out quite nice overall.
Some pictures:
Side wall/panels added, hot glued into place:
Internal wiring:
One last check inside the system make sure everything is ok, before the case is shut:
Some final pictures with the tape added:
Thats it people, another portable Sega Genesis/Megadrive finished! Now time for some quality megadrive gaming!!
-Sam
Some pictures:
Side wall/panels added, hot glued into place:
Internal wiring:
One last check inside the system make sure everything is ok, before the case is shut:
Some final pictures with the tape added:
Thats it people, another portable Sega Genesis/Megadrive finished! Now time for some quality megadrive gaming!!
-Sam
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Very, very clean. It also looks like it'd be super-easy to modify something inside if something were to break.
Nice job!
Nice job!
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