Original NES Mobo
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- rikitheshadow
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How much can you cut down on the size of the NES mobo? What I'm really asking is that if it has multiple layers or not so if I can cut off some sides of the board to fit into a smaller case?
In regards to anyone who says to go with a NOAC or immitation NES, I'm going with the original for 100% compatibility and no loss in video quality.
In regards to anyone who says to go with a NOAC or immitation NES, I'm going with the original for 100% compatibility and no loss in video quality.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
I'm pretty sure you can cut quite a bit off...as it's only 1 layer. Your best bet would probably be to pick up Ben's book...as that has some info on cutting the board down I believe.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
I've got his book. I've read that section multiple times, but I do believe I could cut off more than he did.
I was just double checking......after ruining a Mini ITX board in me NES-PC i'm a little hesitant about cutting the PCBs.
I was just double checking......after ruining a Mini ITX board in me NES-PC i'm a little hesitant about cutting the PCBs.
Re: Original NES Mobo
themadhacker cut his down pretty good, enough to fit in in a game gear case.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
You can cut off all the ground that frames the board. If you desolder the headers for the player 1 and 2 ports, you can cut down even more (you might even be able to solder directly to their traces, I'm not sure if those caps are even necessary. If you need them you could just relocate them). You'll need to connect the ground somewhere else.
You can cut off the pads for the cart slot and connect the cart slot to the traces.
You can cut off the part of the board that the power and reset buttons originally connected to. The 2 traces that are furthest right and go to the RF box are only there for the power/reset switch, so you can cut that part off and remove those caps.
It's also possible to fold the board in half if you have a steady hand. You would need to bridge a ton of traces (kynar, anyone), but it's definitely possible.
Someone should redesign the NES board in eagle à la Kibble's T64 or Rekarp's Atari. Or just use a NES 2 board.
You can cut off the pads for the cart slot and connect the cart slot to the traces.
You can cut off the part of the board that the power and reset buttons originally connected to. The 2 traces that are furthest right and go to the RF box are only there for the power/reset switch, so you can cut that part off and remove those caps.
It's also possible to fold the board in half if you have a steady hand. You would need to bridge a ton of traces (kynar, anyone), but it's definitely possible.
Someone should redesign the NES board in eagle à la Kibble's T64 or Rekarp's Atari. Or just use a NES 2 board.
- rikitheshadow
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Re: Original NES Mobo
Did some more chopping up of the Mobo, sorta the same as theMadHacker.
Sorry about this last photo, I didn't think it looked that blurry.
I'm trying to fit the original NES into a plastic enclosure from polycase......what was it again...... ahh yes, the largest of the AG series. (AG-85)
I have to get to testing it soon though........i had to re-rout one of the ground connectors for the cartridge pins.
Sorry about this last photo, I didn't think it looked that blurry.
I'm trying to fit the original NES into a plastic enclosure from polycase......what was it again...... ahh yes, the largest of the AG series. (AG-85)
I have to get to testing it soon though........i had to re-rout one of the ground connectors for the cartridge pins.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
im thinking about the same but what would be more better and easyer a nes or genesis portable i really like them both but idk to pick
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Re: Original NES Mobo
I should really finish that, shouldn't I?wallydawg wrote:themadhacker cut his down pretty good, enough to fit in in a game gear case.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
On a second note, is that amp circuit designed to boost the NES's video output signal circuit that Ben has in his book required for a PSone or Zenith screen?
I only ask because the book talks as though its only required for the Pocket TV.
I only ask because the book talks as though its only required for the Pocket TV.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
it is required for everything. otherwise the colors will be very pale.
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- rikitheshadow
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Re: Original NES Mobo
Bumping this to show my attempt and failure of relocating the cartridge slot........lol
Think i may even ruined the chance of using this cartridge connector, i'll have to scrap it and use another because its such a pain to remove all the solder, electrical tape, and hot glue i used to connect all the wires.
Biggest problem was that the NES cart could not sit in the slot all the way because the wires obstructed some of the space needed for the cart's case. Even after testing it fully inserted i got no response from the NES. Probably not dead because the video flicker, just the wires didn't connect properly.
Hoping the second try will be successful.
Think i may even ruined the chance of using this cartridge connector, i'll have to scrap it and use another because its such a pain to remove all the solder, electrical tape, and hot glue i used to connect all the wires.
Biggest problem was that the NES cart could not sit in the slot all the way because the wires obstructed some of the space needed for the cart's case. Even after testing it fully inserted i got no response from the NES. Probably not dead because the video flicker, just the wires didn't connect properly.
Hoping the second try will be successful.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
On a second note, the wire is too thick to fit in the case I want so I've set this aside.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
with the original connector the game has to be at a certain angle for it to work don't forget that
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Re: Original NES Mobo
Oh i chopped off the zero force insertion cart slot side and used the other half that is connected to the NES mobo to be used as the cart slot. Like in Ben's book. That way I wouldn't have to worry about having it at a specific angle............. That last photo is just me looking at what I had left to work with before I have to go buy a new slot without getting a whole NES.
I just think some of the wires where not entirely soldered or connected to the prongs.......I did have a frustrating time trying to solder all that stuff on, then i wanted to wrap them with electrical tape to prevent shorts. Couldn't find any of that heat shrink wrap like electrical tape used to insulate connections, would be easier to install and not take up as much space as my sloppy job did.
I just think some of the wires where not entirely soldered or connected to the prongs.......I did have a frustrating time trying to solder all that stuff on, then i wanted to wrap them with electrical tape to prevent shorts. Couldn't find any of that heat shrink wrap like electrical tape used to insulate connections, would be easier to install and not take up as much space as my sloppy job did.
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Re: Original NES Mobo
hmm i might go out and buy some PC board now and try to make my own custom boards to make a really small portable :p
need a new NES though cause i stole some resistors lol
need a new NES though cause i stole some resistors lol